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USA Fencing

  • Points – what are those?  USA Fencing maintains point standings for different age divisions – Senior (Division I), Junior (Under 20/Under 19), Cadet (Under 17/Under 16), Youth 14, Youth 12, Youth 10, Veteran Open (40 & Older), Veteran 40-49, Veteran 50-59, Veteran 60-69 and Veteran 70 & Older.  Points are used for seeding of competitions, qualification for national championships, and selection for international competitions.  More detail can be found in Chapters 3-12 of the Athlete Handbook.

  • How do I earn points?  Fencers can earn points at specific domestic and international tournaments.  All events at NACs, Junior Olympic Fencing Championships, and US Fencing National Championships are point events except for Division IA, Division II, Division III, and team events.  You must place at a certain level to earn points.

  • Where am I on the point standings?  Point standings can be found here on the website.

  • I just finished xth at a competition – do I get points?  Well, it all depends on what competition it was, where you finished, and how many fencers participated in the competition. 

    • In Super Youth Circuit competitions, points are awarded to the top 40% (no rounding - drop the fraction). 
    • In Veteran competitions, points are awarded to a maximum of 64th place or last place in the competition, whichever number is smaller. 
    • For all other National point competitions, points are awarded for placement within the direct elimination round in which the top 40% (no rounding – drop the fraction) of the competitive field falls to a maximum of 32nd.  What the heck does that mean????  The direct elimination rounds that are considered for points are:

      • DE with repêchage of 32:  final 4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-24, 25-32
      • DE with repêchage of 16:  final 4, 5-8, 9-12, 13-16, 17-32
      • DE with no repêchage:  final 4; 5-8, 9-16, 17-32

    • So, let’s say you are in a competition in which there are 62 fencers.  40% of 62 is 24.8.  So we drop the 0.8, leaving it at 24, meaning that points will be awarded in the direct elimination round that includes 24th place.  For repêchage format that means points awarded to places 17-24; in a competition that has simple direct elimination, no repêchage, points will be awarded for those in the 17-32 round of the direct elimination tableau. 

  • How many points do I get for my finish???  It depends on your category.  Each category has a different set of points.  Please see the Point Tables in the Appendix of the Athlete Handbook.

  • International points – Whoa!  How do I get me some of those?  Well, first you have to qualify for participation in an international competition – See the International FAQ.  Then points are awarded to those placing in the top 40% of the competitive field to a maximum place of 32 (Cadet, Junior, and Senior competitions) or to a maximum place of 64 for strong Senior Competitions.  International points are complex, and it is recommended that you read Chapter 3 of the Athlete Handbook.

  • How are point totals calculated?  Do I just add up all my points?  NO.  This is a common misconception.  Chapter 4 of the Athlete Handbook explains the method for the domestic portion of points, and chapters 7-12 explains the point calculations for Senior, Junior, and Cadet in detail.

  • Rolling points, Team points – what’s the difference and what are they used for?  Rolling points are based on a continuous 12 month period of competitions.  Points stay on the point standings until the competition is held again or, if it is not held again, those points are dropped one year after is was held.  Team points include only those points that will be used for National team selection.  Chapters 7-12 of the Athlete Handbook have provide a detailed description of the criteria used to determin team point standings.  Rolling points are used for seeding in national competitions, for qualifying to Junior Olympic Fencing Championships and US Fencing National Championships, and for selection for international competitions at the beginning of the season.  Team point standings are used for international competition selection starting mid-season and to select International Championship teams.